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Edward Blum, of Tallahassee, Fla., is not a lawyer; he retired from a job in finance. But he is founder and president of Students for Fair Admissions, a group he acknowledges starting to challenge higher education affirmative action policies in court. The equal rights provision of our 14th Amendment basically gets to the point that people should not be treated differently because of their race or ethnicity, said Blum.
He also argues that affirmative action violates the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The opportunities must be the same, regardless of your race or ethnicity, he said.
Affirmative action has helped boost the number of Black, Latinx and other minorities who are under-represented at prestigious schools. But now those racial preferences may be prohibited, in large part due to Blums efforts. The Supreme Court is now considering cases he brought targeting affirmative action at the University of North Carolina (the nations oldest public university) and Harvard (the oldest private college).
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Blum said his group has 22,000 members, but none is identified by name in either court case. Well, in the world of social media, it is no surprise that 17- and 18-year-old kids do not want their names made public, he said.
Blum has previously spearheaded two cases in which the Supreme Court struck down voting polices designed to help racial groups (particularly African Americans and Hispanics) that have endured prior discrimination. But he lost a 2016 case in which he backed Abigail Fisher, who
But todays Supreme Court is far more conservative.
Braver asked, Were you just determined to keep bringing cases until you got the court to agree with you?
Legal advocacy requires a long-term commitment, Blum replied.
There are, in fact, nine states that have enacted bans on racial preferences in state colleges, with some reporting a drop in African American and Latinx admissions at top institutions.
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Affirmative action advocates say a nationwide ban would be disastrous.
Mitchell Crusto, a professor at Loyola University New Orleans College of Law, said, Affirmative action is really trying to treat everyone equally, recognizing that certain groups have been marginalized over the centuries.
Crusto grew up in segregated Louisiana: Most of the restaurants in town did not serve Black people, he said. Water fountains were segregated, so there was a white-only and a Black-only water fountain. The Woolworths department store, you could not have counter service if you were Black.
He is a descendant of generations of enslaved people, and forebears who faced prejudice after emancipation. A lot of the legacy of discrimination in housing, in employment meant that my family was set back century after century, he said.
Even after the Supreme Court mandated school desegregation, most of Crustos schooling was in segregated Catholic schools in New Orleans. He was a top student, and also, he acknowledges, an affirmative action beneficiary in 1971.
Braver asked, You knew when you applied to Yale that they were in interested in you not just as a student, but because they wanted to bring in more African American students?
Absolutely, absolutely, he replied, pointing out, Race is just one aspect. I wasnt accepted to Yale because Im Black. I was accepted into Yale because of all the other things that I am as a person, of which Im also African American.
Crusto graduated magna cum laude from Yale College, and was admitted to Yale Law School.
He argues that the Supreme Court should uphold its previous rulings that colleges have a genuine interest in including students from different racial groups: For all students who are at a university, having a diverse campus of individuals with different backgrounds adds to the educational goal of the university, he said.
For his part, Edward Blum, a descendant of Holocaust survivors, contends that when colleges have considered ethnic backgrounds of applicants, it has hurt certain groups: Back in the 1920s, its well documented by dozens of historians that Harvard had policies in place to discriminate against Jews, he said. Fast forward now to the 1990s and 2000s, we believe that Harvard has policies that diminish the likelihood that high-achieving Asians are being admitted.
In fact, Harvard recently announced that nearly 30% of those admitted this year are Asian-American, more than four times the representation in the total U.S. population.
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Still, some Asian Americans are taking a stand against affirmative action plans that tend to help other minorities.
Rutvij Holay, whose parents were born in India, is the founder of the Americans for Equality Political Action Committee. He said, Even if tomorrow they give preference to Asians, Ill be just as opposed, because the idea is that ideally we should all be treated equally, and there really should be a level playing field for all of us.
A straight-A student in Irvine Calif., Holay was just admitted to one of the nations top schools: Stanford University. But he also applied to Ivy League schools. I applied to all of them except for Harvard, he said.
And did he get into any of them? Nope.
Braver asked, Do you have a feeling that maybe racial preferences might have had something to do with that?
Yes, he said. Look, I look at the data, right? Im not going off of a feeling, because the college admission process has been very good for me. But I think everyone has to acknowledge that there is a level of discrimination that occurs.
Chelsea Wang, a Harvard sophomore, is co-president of the Harvard-Radcliffe Asian American Association. She participated in a pro-affirmative action demonstration before the Supreme Court heard arguments on the cases last fall. There was also an Asian American anti-affirmative action demonstration, underscoring how divisive the issue is among Americans, of all races.
Wang said, I think this case has the potential to really pit Asian Americans against other minorities. And I dont want that to happen. I think we should all, you know, understand, like, what other people have gone through and support them.
A pro-affirmative action demonstration last fall at the Supreme Court, which is deciding two cases that may do away with the policy in college and university admissions.
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Wang argues that it is a question of basic fairness. You know what? I wish we didnt have to have affirmative action, she said. I think we have to have it, because all of the different, compounding forms of inequality that affect someones life before they even apply for college, call for something that accounts for those factors.
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Still, Edward Blum believes there are other ways to get a diverse student body.
Braver asked him, This is not news to you that